Liz Smith cont.

JJ: Who's the toughest celeb to interview?
LS: Gwyneth Paltrow. Her press agent just won't let anybody near her! She's lovely. She's hard to interview. Oh they're all kind of hard. I don't think it's that they're difficult. I think it's that they feel they have limited energy and don't want to be interviewed. And they don't want publicity, most of 'em. It's a 180-degree turnaround.

JJ: What's your take on Richard Gere?
LS: I think fatherhood has changed him for the better. I always thought he was sort of vain and empty, but he's probably got a lot more qualities than I thought.


"There isn't any law guaranteeing anybody privacy in America."

JJ: What makes you decide whether or not to kill an item?
LS: If I think it would be too hurtful or truly injurious to somebody's career or personal life I might kill it.

JJ: So what do you think of the extramarital affair that practically ruined Kathie Lee and Frank Gifford's marriage?
LS: They didn't do it any good themselves by going on TV and continuing to talk about it. They conducted their reaction to it totally in public and I think it just ruined them.

JJ: What do you think about the so-called columnists who first exposed it?
LS: It was in The Star, which paid for the story, so I didn't think much of it. That's really quite awful, luring someone into having sex with you and then selling it and ruining others' lives.

JJ: Exactly. How do you ride the fine line between friends and connections?
LS: I haven't the vaguest idea! I mean, it's something I have to deal with every day.

JJ: That's a true art, wouldn't you say? A real balancing act.
LS: Oh I don't know, I've tried a real balancing act and it's a pain in the ass, frankly. And I don't know how I do it!

JJ: [laughs] What's a good day and a bad day for you?
LS: A good day is when I've got a lot of wonderful news, when people call and give it to me themselves, or that I pick up at a party. The day I have to dance around and find something out is a bad day. Fridays are always bad days—everything happens on Friday. Just as you're getting ready to go away for the weekend, people announce things, and the timing is awful.

JJ: How has the climate of gossip changed since you started your career? And what's your take on the Matt Drudges of the world?
LS: It changed because times have changed. Mores and manners and morals have all changed, and so of course there is more you can say now. In the past you couldn't say all this stuff and now you can say almost anything. And of course on the Internet you can say anything, probably without much fear of any kind of reprisal. I don't like the Internet because I think it has no brakes—no editors, no publishers. And so I don't like that free-wheeling thing where you can just put any kind of crap out there.

JJ: What do you think of a celeb's privacy when it comes to the paparazzi and the media?
LS: Well I think the paparazzi and the media overdo it and I think the celebs overdo their feeling that they deserve privacy. There isn't any law guaranteeing anybody privacy in America. I think the bad thing is that the press hounds people. Or the press gets those stories and won't let them go! Then you could go crazy because for 10 days you don't read about anything else. It drives you nuts and you hate the people ever after because you never want to hear their name again. [Jedell laughs.] That's sort of what happened with Kathie Lee. The interesting thing is that Kathie Lee seems to have lost her popularity more than Frank.

Mary Tyler Moore and
Dr. Robert Levine

Ivana Trump, Liz

Kathie Lee Gifford

photos taken by Joan Jedell at Liz Smith's book party for Natural Blonde at Le Cirque

 

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